Universalism – The Lazy Heretic Podcast Episode 02

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Show Notes

We begin our discussion in earnest about the different views of Hell and what happens after we die.

Everyone will ultimately be restored to a right relationship with God in the new creation and new Jerusalem. When you die you will be able to enter into heaven.

What are some of the arguments for and against universalism?

1. Who wouldn’t want everyone to be saved? What kind of person wants people to go to hell?
2. What about Hitler? How could you want him to get into heaven? What if he said a prayer on his death bed and got in? What if the Jews that he killed ended up in hell?
3. How can a horrible person who said a prayer and lives horribly still get into heaven, just because they said a prayer – yet why do good people who love others still go to hell?
4. How does eternal punishment stack up against temporal sins?

Goes back to Clement of Alexandria – apokatistasis
The death of Christ has a universal implication

Origen

Disputed as to whether he was speculating in his thought on what happens after we die. Origen did write a book De Principiis where he lays out what the bible is clear on and this was one of the things that he felt free to speculate on.

* Acts 3:21
The restoration of all things…

Was Origen a universalist? He certainly hoped that all people to be saved. Why wouldn’t we want everyone to be saved?

Modern Universalism

* Started in 1735 but the term not used until 1820 (The Streeters).
* 3 main streams
1. Evangelical Universalism
2. Charismatic Universalism – Malachi 4:6
3. Liberal Christian Universalism – 1 Timothy 2

Verses that Taylor mentions in the Episode

John 12:32
And I, when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all people to myself.

Romans 5:18
Therefore, as one trespass led to condemnation for all men, so one act of righteousness leads to justification and life for all men.

Colossians 1:19-20
For in him all the fullness of God was pleased to dwell, and through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether on earth or in heaven, making peace by the blood of his cross.

2 Corinthians 5:19
That is, in Christ God was reconciling the world to himself, not counting their trespasses against them, and entrusting to us the message of reconciliation.

1 Corinthians 4:4
For I am not aware of anything against myself, but I am not thereby acquitted. It is the Lord who judges me.

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